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they will cleanse the area of enemy forces. >> palestinian militants invaded from land, sea, and air. the most ambitious operation ever launched from gaza. israel is claiming at least 250 deaths and nearly 1600 injured after their soldiers and civilians were taken hostage. palestinian health officials claim more than 230 deaths, and over 1600 injured. when israel will hit back with airstrikes. -- and >> we want to say this to them and everywhere in the world, and terrorists -- israel stands -- we will not feel to have their back.

>> the united states stands by israel as celebrations continue in the iranian capital of tehran. ♪ ♪ ♪ hello, good morning. it was the most ambitious and deadly operation hamas has ever launched from gaza by land, sea, and air. and when it, came it shocked israel and the world. soldiers and civilians were taken hostage. israel than retell rated in a series of airstrikes. at least 150 israelis are dead, and nearly 1600 injured. while the palestinian side, 230 were killed and more than 1600 injured there. israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu declared, we are at war. this morning, israel's offensive on gaza continues. these are live pictures from gaza city there. in the last few hours, we've heard several explosions and

seen buildings on fire. [sound of artillery] >> that was earlier overnight there involves a city. we will of course keep you updated on the situation there in the middle east as and when we get it. but let's take you through those stories so far in more detail. palestinian militants crossed over the heavily fortified barrier into israel with fighting reported in a number of border towns, including nahal oz, steroid, and beer. thousands of rockets were launched into the country. the cities of ashkelon, or how about, and russian law zion all faced bombardment. israel then retaliated with its own counter offensive, watching a series of airstrikes across the gaza strip.

officers -- skies international correspondent, john sparks. >> it began at dawn, thousands of rockets fired skyward from the gaza strip into israel. militant group hamas, which governs the territory, here are launching a surprise attack. and they have caused significant damage in cities like tel aviv and ashkelon, the government has declared a state of national emergency. the israelis have experienced missile attacks in the past, but not an offensive like this. here, militants use a bulldozer to open a security fence which surrounds the strip. they're fighters entering farms and communities which surround it. some used pick ups trucks, other road motorbikes. the israeli defense force was overwhelmed. in these pictures, militants

use a drone to immobilize a tank. and we see the crew being pulled from a vehicle. it is an unprecedented incursion on israeli territory, and in the eyes of its prime minister, an act of war. he spoke after meeting his security cabinet. [speaking in a global language] >> translator: since this morning, the state of israel has been at. wore our first goal is to cleanse the area of and we forces that has infiltrated it. i called on all citizens of israel to unite, achieve our highest goal, victory in the war. israel's air force has been deployed above gaza. dozens of fighter jets, now destroying targets belonging to hamas, said the military spokesman. but the militants operation, which showed signs of significant planning, has clearly shocked the israelis.

armed paragliders have been sent into southern israel with residents in ten's, villages, and farms under attack. dozens of israelis have been taken hostage. here we see individuals captured by militants at a government compound near the gaza border. hamas has called their operation a heroic act. and some commentators have defended the incursion. >> it's a clear palestinian response to unprecedented level of israeli settlers attacks on palestinians, and president -- attacks on mosques, and unprecedented level of killing palestinian since the beginning of this year, 248 palestinians were killed by israeli troops. >> hamas is called on all palestinians to join them and some have celebrated the attack. these pictures taken in the jenin refugee camp in the west

bank. however, the israeli prime minister says the enemy will pay a terrible price. days of conflict and bloodshed await. john sparks, sky news. >> a little earlier, nbc's raf sanchez sent us this update from close to israel's border with gaza. >> as you can see, we're at a checkpoint setup by israeli forces. this is as far south as close to it we are able to get right now. we spoke just now to a truly exhausted looking israeli man who walked past us and he said, on the other side of this checkpoint, there is carnage, that there are cars shot to pieces, and there were at the time that he passed by, bodies inside that car, inside those cars. no one really knows what to expect when the sun comes up, when we are able to get inside of the cities where the palestinian gunmen have been all day shooting police

station, they were engaging in battle with israeli forces. this is something 24 hours ago would've been seen as completely inconceivable in this country. the idea that palestinian militants could enter israel by land, by sea, and by air, air in the form of hand gliders and power glazers, flying over these really border fence. enter israeli towns and communities, hold and take territory, and engage israeli forces, it would've been thought unthinkable. it is thought, the israeli -- 200 israelis have been killed so far. the palestinian health forces have such 150 palestinians have been killed inside of gaza. inside of this massive loss of life, there's a hostage situation unfolding at a scale israel has perhaps never before seen. an israeli security official tells me there are two hostage situations inside of his real

where you have is facilities held at gunpoint -- by palestinian gunmen. but far more complicated is the fact that according to the israeli military, there are both israeli soldiers and civilians being held hostage on the other side of the gaza border fence in the captivity of hamas and palestinian islamic jihad. it is the fact that there is citizens inside gaza right now which is weighing so heavily on decision-makers from prime minister netanyahu on that down. that's why the israeli military says that all options on the table, including a full scale ground invasion of gaza to bring those people home. gaza, as you, know is one of the most densely populated places on earth. and the israeli ground incursion on other skull is likely to bring even further casualties than what we've seen so far today. >> saudi arabia has been moving

-- official recognition of israel which some analysts are linking to this new offensive. middle east correspondent alasdair bunkall reports on backdrop to these latest events. ese latest events >> this attack took israel completely by surprise. the combination of thousands of rockets fired at israel and breaking down of the gaza border fence suggests an operation that was months in the planning and without side help. probably from iran. it also points to major feeling of his intelligence. >> hamas has made a grave mistake this morning. it launched a war against the state of israel. israeli defense forces troops are fighting against the enemy in every location of infiltration.

i call on all citizens to follow security instructions from the high in command. the state of israel will win this war. >> as israel's tried to regain control of the situation, support from his western allies was unequivocal. >> the evidence that we have seen thus far look to be atrocious terrorist act. we completely support israel's right to defend itself, its people, its borders. >> the security situation in the west bank and gaza has been deteriorating all year. 2023 has been the most violent year for two decades. and that would've been part of hamas's motive. israel has also been deeply divided domestically over controversial judicial reforms and its enemies might see this as an opportunity to test any witnesses. >> now look at what happens when we make peace between

saudi arabia and israel. >> but in recent weeks, israel has been moving closer to a peace deal with saudi arabia. ♪ ♪ ♪ iran, which supports hummus, is against that. today's attack might have been an attempt to govern the agreement. >> today, the people of his robot under attack. orchestrated by a terrorist organization, hamas. in this moment of tragedy, i want to say that them into the world and terrorists everywhere, the united states stands with israel. we will not ever fail to have their back. we will make sure that they have help their citizens need to make a continued defend themselves. [speaking in a global language] >> israeli military has now confirmed that some israelis have been kidnapped and taken into gaza. a ground operation to rescue

them now seems likely. but that would come at some huge cost. this is not the normal round of violence. it is out what war. instinctively, israel will want to hit hamas in gaza harder than it has ever before. but benjamin netanyahu is desperate for peace with saudi arabia, and so that will play on his mind when he considers the response. alasdair bomb stop, sky news. >> our u.s. correspondent mark stone has more analysis and reaction. >> you can't overstate the seriousness of this moment. a truly bloody turning point in a long, long conflict. and with consequences as yet unknown. but you can be sure that they will be devastating for the

people of gaza. you can be sure that it will potentially risk widening this conflict much, much further. and i think that is why we have seen so many phone calls over the course of the day. the president has spoken to benjamin netanyahu. he has given him his full support. we have also heard the secretary of state anthony blinken has spoken to mahmoud abbas, the president of the palestinian authority in the west bank. remember, distinct from the hamas militants who run gaza. but nevertheless, connected. so i think there is so many unknowns at the moment. and the pictures that are emerging from the ground are truly extraordinary. of the audacious-ness of this attack, of the intelligence and military failures of israel. live pictures from the parents crossing, that's the main crossing point between israel into gaza through which people, the small number of people who

have permits, are able to travel. was completely overrun today by the hamas gunman. absolutely remarkable that this was able to happen. it raises questions down the line as well because that is the only point through which humanitarian aid can get in and out of gaza. and if there is a ground incursion or if the airstrikes from israel continue seems absolutely certain will not get easily indeed. and the wider conflict, the wider consequences nil on the northern border with lebanon, hezbollah will no doubt do what they do, whatever they've done before. take advantage of this moment. they're aligned with hamas, they will seek to destabilize up in the northern border. how will israel respond in the west bank? that is distinct. but it is clear that the people of the west bank are hopeless -- there full of hopelessness, they are fed up with the palestinian authority, they are more aligned with hamas down

and gaza. how will that draw them into this conflict? >> mark stone reporting there. we will, of course, have continuing coverage of the conflict throughout the morning here on sky news. in the meantime, let's take a look at some of the day's other news. it's labor's turn to hold their party conference this week. arriving and liverpool, elaborate leaders says he looks forward to putting his case across to delegates. skies political correspondent cohen reports. >> the labor leader and his deputy arrive and what they hope will be that lost conference in opposition. after a crushing by election victory, they are in a chipper mood. >> to be here, an incredibly good result in glenn. we have a chance to set out a positive case for the future and show labor is the party of change and labor is britain's future. i really, really good

opportunity to send it out. we're all looking for to it. thank you so much. with a first solid evidence of a recovery in scotland and 20 points ahead of the polls, the question now is the party on course to clean up across the uk? today, at the women's conference, an embrace of the achievements of tony blair's government. >> conference like so many of us in this room today, i won't be standing here today without a labor government. labor is the party of a quality, of the equality out, of the equal pay and a short start. >> the party has kept a tight rein on any new spending, credibility on the economy is everything. today, promising a big expansion of affordable homes through reforms to develop rules. >> at the moment, affording a

false -- far too out of reach for many people. homeownership has become harder and harder. labor would act. it's currently far too easy for developers to wiggle out of their commitment around affordable housing. >> there's no targets? the government committed 300,000 homes a year and didn't build them. you're not putting any target on the number of homes just saying it will be more that now. >> we believe there need to be locally driven targets. the government abandoned its overall approach, that had a catastrophic impact. >> as they hope, 1996 all over again, here in liverpool, labor has turned disillusionment with government and practical policies for the future. cohen, sky news. >> a powerful magnitude 6.3 earthquake followed by strong after sharks killed dozens of people in western afghanistan on saturday, according to the country's national disaster

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>> welcome back. it was the most ambitious and deadly operation hamas has ever launched from gaza. by land, sea, and air.

when it came, it shocked israel and the world. soldiers and civilians were taken hostage and israel then retaliated with a series of airstrikes. let's take you through the main events in detail. in palestinian militants crossed over the hell are heavily fortified battling it is israel. a number of border towns. including nahel oz, steroid and beer. thousands of rockets were launched. in the cities of ashkelon, raw chabad and -- israel been retaliated with its counteroffensive, launching a series of airstrikes across the gaza strip. discuss international correspondent, john sparks, reports. >> it began down, thousands of rockets. fired skyward from the gaza strip into israel. militant group, hamas, which

governs the territory, appear launching a surprise attack. they have caused significant damage in israeli cities like tel aviv and ashkelon. the government has declared a state of national emergency. the israelis have experienced missile attacks in the past, but not an offensive like this. here, militants used a bulldozer to open the security fence, surrounding the strip. the fighters and her farms and communities that surround them. some used pickup trucks, others road motorbikes. the israeli defense force was overwhelmed. in these pictures, militants use a drone to immobilize a tank. we see someone being pulled from a vehicle. it is an unprecedented incursion in israeli territory. and the eyes of its prime minister, an act of war.

he spoke after meeting with his security cabinet. >> since this morning, the state of israel has been at war. our first goal is to cleanse the area of the enemy forces that have infiltrated it. i call on all citizens of israel to unite, to achieve our highest goal, victory in the war. >> israel's air force has been deployed above gaza. thousands of fighter jets now destroy targets belonging to hamas, said a military spokesman. the militants operation, which shows signs of significant planning, has clearly shocked the israelis. armed paragliders have been sent into southern israel with residents and towns and villages and farms under attack. dozens of israelis have been taken hostage. here, we see individuals captured by militants at a

government compound if the gaza border. hamas has called their operation a heroic act and some commentators have defended the incursion. >> it is clear palestinian response to unprecedented level of attacks on castilla -- palestinians and israeli attacks on the al-aqsa mosque and understand that level of killing palestinians since beginning of this year, 248 pulses were killed by israeli troops. >> hamas has called on all palestinians to join them and some have celebrated the attack. these pictures taken in the eugene -- janine camp in the west bank. however, israeli prime minister says the enemy will pay a terrible price. days of conflict and bloodshed await. john sparks, sky news. >> okay, time now for a look at today's newspapers with neil

patterson. patterson. >> welcome to the press preview. on the front pages as they arrive. as for the next half an hour or so, we will be taking a look at what's making headlines. assistant editor laura armstrong and executive director of the -- join you guys in just a second. let's run you through the front pages. we begin with the observer. the attack by hamas militants on israel and the retaliation against gaza is, of, course the story of the headline. hundreds die and hostages held as hamas assault shocks israel. that shot is reflected to end the telegraph. it calls a situation, israel's 9/11 moment. as you might imagine, the taking of civilian hostages by hamas against international law

is in this sunday express with this stark headline, human shield horror. the sunday times has detailed hostages were physically dragged from homes inseams that they say ripped from a nightmare. the male, a powerful story this, it concentrates on a picture of one terrified is being seized by hamas gunmen. the headline. don't kill me. the people report, it says it's a one and a half billion dollar plan to rescue the nhs from a crisis, if that is the labor winning the next general election. after news of an alleged plot to kill nap and murder polley will be, the mayor says that philippe schofield heal their past differences. and the sun, high court papers in which the former talent

judge has been claiming being set for the show made him feel suicidal. the start on this -- but by star trek actor stewart is supposedly haunted. just a reminder, by scanning that q r code, you can see the program. you can check out the front pages of tomorrow's papers while watching us. multi media. we are joined by the sunday news assistant editor laura armstrong and the executive director of the youth government fund, gates. good to have you on again. let's start with, obviously, the main story for all of the newspapers. we've got the observers, hostages held as pummels assault shocked. it is a horrific situation. it's only one that is going to get burst, correct? >> it. is it is. absolutely. i think for what we see today, there's been a huge focus on

the casualties, there've been 200 on each side. thousands injured. the next question is, where it goes next. i think one question that certainly being absolute is, will they be joined hamas by other forces? will hezbollah get involved from lebanon? will that involve for their has left forces coming from syria? hezbollah, i believe, have spoken about this since a strong message, implicit support over whether not the actually cannonballed is another question. they obviously have had even more weapons, even more military strength. this has the capacity to absolutely explode. >> i suppose part of the question, john, it's how unified palestinians are know this. you have the u.s. secretary of state, anthony blinken, speaking to palestine. of course, not talking to hamas perspective organization. is that, talking to the palestinian authority. but what part is the palestinian authority hold these days? >> the answer is very little.

i think the word that plays in that headline that stands out in shock. i think this is a shocking story. we're used to there being violence in the middle east. where you stood there being conflict between israel and palestinians. the level of brutality, the level and this has people woke up this morning to hear rockets come firing ahead. to see the wall being knocked down, to see tanks coming in, to see tanks being overtaken. as you can see the picture there, i mean, this is pretty shocking personal stuff seeing people being kidnapped and taken out of israel. it's also essential to the middle east. visitor is going to be a shockwave and israel as to who is responsible for not preventing this. israel's security have been based on knowing that an attack is coming and preventing it. someone is going to be felt for this not being prevented. the shock is going to be much wider than that. as to how other countries in

the area will respond. >> let's look at the front of this and express. the headline, human shield horror. failed intelligence. there is a reason that hamas have been able to take young people, old people, civilians, non combatants, hostage. it was because of that intelligence failure. i suppose that there is an intense -- intelligence failure on the top of a's release, the white house have to deny about knowing, surely the united states knew this was coming. >> i think there is an argument that everybody should have seen this coming. particularly with it into -- tensions that have been building on the west bank. if you look at the timing of this, 50 years plus one day. the young cop or war in 1973, that is a check when students, is it? i think as much as people are asking questions now over what happened with the israeli intelligence, you have to be aware of the human sense of it.

you have people wandering around the streets and shock about this era xylans, not knowing what to do next. having hamas militants walking through the streets and not knowing what to do. the horror of that must have been extreme. >> i suppose if we take a look at the sunday telegraph headline, hamas terrorists, [inaudible] suffers a 9/11 moment. i've often have people talking other circumstances of people talking at 9/11. this might be the first time i seen it used properly, frankly. >> i think that 9/11 capacity is a really powerful one. not just because they did see this coming. not just because it's a horrible terrorist attack. also because that 11th was a moment that shook up the world and questioned, actually, what is happening between different countries. who is at peace with who. where is a conflict going to go. in a moment in time when things

are looking slightly brighter. we were quite close to remarkable breakthrough with saudi arabia signing a normalization, a peace agreement, with israel. >> isn't that part of what hamas have done? >> that has to be the obvious question. this completely disrupts that deal. i'll tell you, what is the one country in the world that will be delighted to see a deal between israel and saudi arabia? that's iran. iran is a country that has come out to command what hamas has done here. i think we have to hope that over the next two or three weeks, there are some cool, calm minds looking for a way to re-normalize things. it's not going to be easy. >> it's hard to imagine that. when you are looking at the factions involved here. as you were saying, the fact that this deal was being brought through, as to the shock. >> it makes it harder. how incredibly vulnerable this early government is at the moment. we're not looking at a study -- the prime minister is presently

in the middle of a massive argument in this country and his coalition about future forms with the basic laws of israel, which changes the way the supreme court -- it's huge. thousands of people are out in the streets. and all of that uncertainty that netanyahu has, he suddenly has to deal with. that should make us more worried about how this should play out. >> the front of the mail on the sunday warn israel, don't kill me again. choosing to go with the hostages that have been taken. you can to cry all of the time to accept hamas abuse, particularly known competence, taking civilians. we heard from benjamin netanyahu earlier, warning civilians, living in gaza, to get out. we all know that is incredibly difficult, if not impossible for many of them. the simple fact of the matter is, we are going to see innocence on both sides losing their lives and numbers, in greater numbers in that than

we've seen to date. i've been in the middle east for a while. >> this is. and you look at these figures, it's 12 hours. it's the death toll that is risen and risen and visit. i think for these people, because they've been blindsided by this in such a way, we can sit here in the studio and talk about what people should do. it's chaos out there, i think. if you look at some of the footage, people don't know where to go, what to do. there is a long here this morning where people didn't have any idea what was going on at all because the prime minister hadn't addressed the people other than in a short clip on twitter. they had no idea what was going on. amidst all of that chaos, it's very hard -- it's not a case where people can calmly and coolly take themselves to the exit. >> we're going to have to try and find a way of the next two weeks to both remember that terrorists violence has no defense and recognize that civilians on both sides who are victims and who will suffer. we need to feel equal sympathy,

i think, for innocent civilians who are israeli and innocence billions were palestinian. for a moment, defending or justifying the indefensible. >> the front of this, i just wanna bring it -- again, another striking picture. the idea of officers on standby. i believe that's with that photo showing. and ashkelon. it is incredibly difficult to talk about issues in this particular part of the world sometimes because of, frankly, the way in which both sides would respond. but surely he's undeniable that as of this moment the idea that there will be peace as part of the world is gone for the time being, surely. >> i think it's certainly very hard to see. many commentators today saying it is impossible to see that this will be resolved without a ground invasion and took gaza. there's no question that's going to end with a huge amount of bloodshed on both sides. i think to touch on which i'm saying earlier, this is going

to have a massive impact. we already have been bludgeoned extra met officers being put out to deal with people reacting to this. they're many people outside celebrating this and others protesting against it. so, it's clearly going to have a big impact. but people are strong feelings about what's happened. >> it's a cause for some small amount of hope that piece for the past few decades has been trying to resolve the palestinian challenge. what has happened over the last decade has been a move towards peace while not trying to resolve the palestinian. publicly all like resolution, but we are seeing peace between israel and arab nations without this incredibly difficult problem being solved. i'm not convinced that that has completely gone because it's massively in the interest of saudi arabia, the uae, egypt, israel. a lot of these air countries to find a way to work more peacefully together. but we're going to have to somehow get through the next

few weeks. it's going to require some very, very clever involvement from the americans to make sure that people are keeping their eye on everyone if they can be peace agreements. >> at the very latest from an israeli army spokesman, the israeli army, according to netanyahu, will use the full force to deal with what is going on. a suggestion that is still fighting in israel that they're still hamas terrace on the ground in the country as well. the situation, not fully under control. i think you can probably guess that myself. let's pause there just for a second. after the break, we will have much more of jackson pages, including the story from this sunday telegram. rishi sunak two and sick note culture. i'll explain why, after this. liberty mutual customized my car insurance and i saved hundreds. with the money i saved,

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who were working age benefits for sickness. that's now at 2.7 million. that's a big jump. that's a 35% increase in just four years. i think you can see why the government feels the need to do something. >> the workforce, he's talking about increasing productivity and -- you need them. >> the cause of that is five or six billion pounds a year. look, trying to do something to get those people back to work is a very good idea. i think there's a bit of an opportunity here, which is gps having to make these decisions, they hate. it you want to be in a heart on the side of your patient. you don't to be at the front and of the governments welfare policy. the idea that someone else might do it, i think it's quite an attractive idea, but his governments have found, there was two steps away from that terrible case where you sent someone back to work edge they

shouldn't be at work. they have some appalling mental breakdown and you're the cause of it. they're going to have the tread carefully. there is a need to readjust. >> what do you make of? this is my understanding was that the problem in the labor market is not short-term certainly, the long term sadness. i'm not sure how long this will tackle that. >> i don't. no i think of a slightly more cynical view of gps than you do. i'm sure there's some cheap piece like that. i think, at the moment, a large part of this problem has come because are so overstretched. there are a few appointments. i think it is probably easier to sign people up second they say yes. i don't know many people who have managed to get a cheapie appointment in the last year. i think there are people who want this, i think you'd be easy to do. i think it's a good idea to outsource a. and that sense, it's a good idea to address it. it's a question of how they do that. and how it is managed. you can also see how easy back

and get out of control if it wasn't properly managed. >> another interesting story. or on the front of the sun to telegraph. i had a briefing of labor's conference. richard graduates are going to be assisting in the return of the student grant. >> they know they're talking to in the story, don't they? >> it's a very robinhood policy. we're going to take money away from the rich and we're going to put poor students through university, which is a brilliant idea in terms of the poor students. i can't imagine is going to go fantastically well with the wealthy ones. >> after admit, at the number time one of our major political parties was campaigning on the platform of getting rid of paying tuition fees in the first place. goner those days, i suspect. >> absolutely. gone completely unaffordable for us to do that, i would argue. this is pretty sensible territory for labor to get into. i think it has policy. we do have a group of students. we do well as a country getting

people from poor backgrounds to get university. i think that's great. fanned up with the biggest amount of debt. actually, a grant of some size is the right thing to do. at the moment, we also have a policy where if you have the money, you can pay back the loan immediately. you will avoid effectively the interest. >> ridiculous amount of interest. >> i do think there's an argument to be made. to say, hang on, should people be allowed to pick this up and escape the interest one others count? i suspect a lot of people will like that argument. there will be, of course, a lot of middle class parents who are horrified at the idea of having to pay even more. to lead us to choose. if we want to continue the high number of people going to university, it's a whole other debate, we have to ask, do we actually want these poor students to have this class some amount of debt order we

want a slightly fair system? choices to be made. >> laura, 20 seconds. i will watch for me. >> i want to compare with what we're seeing with the private school situation and their increased tax. it's not so much if you are the parent that can afford your child to go, that doesn't affect it. what about the middle? people what about the parents who are paying a little bit more and just over the threshold? >> there will be plenty of fun and liverpool over the next few days. i suspect, maybe, possibly. yeah, no. it's over. john, laura, it's been an absolute pleasure having you with us this evening. thank you for joining us. >> let's take a look at the weather. >> central and southern parts will stay very warm for the next few days well in the

chilly north, heavy and persistent rain over scotland will slowly clear. the met office has issued amber and yellow warnings for heavy and slow-moving rain with amber is expiring at 2:00 this afternoon. the heaviest, most disruptive rainfall is expected in western and central scotland. northern britain will be cloudy for us today, with heavy rain over much of northern mainland scotland. elsewhere, there will be some fog in the south. most places will be fine. rain over northern scotland will extend into hockney through the morning, but will turn increasingly light and patchy. southern scotland, meanwhile, will brighten up with bitterly rain clearing. rain clearing. >> coming up here on sky news -- we will bring you more on the deadly israeli palestinian conflict.

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